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RE: Presentencing report
I don't know which
one of my many posts made it to the "other" site as I
NEVER
go there. I would imagine it has to do with the thought that some
believe Raye
could be
guilty of
murder.
If I took a poll she would win hands down over Mike Porter. I am not
saying I think Raye Dawn is
guilty
of murder.
I have actually defended her numerous times in our small town. I
personally don't know which one killed Kelsey. I do find it strange that
Raye Dawn's family has flyers that state Lance was due home on October
12th (which wasn't true) and Raye Dawn was upset about him seeing
Kelsey. Then the day before and after she made calls to her attorney and
Kelsey's attorney this baby is
murdered.
The timeline allows for either
Raye Dawn
or Mike to be
guilty
of this crime. The day after Kelsey has died Raye Dawn is out visiting
and filing EPO's so Kelsey's father and I cannot attend the funeral. Her
own cousin testified to that fact in court. Before the funeral
Raye Dawn
knows Kelsey's death was ruled a
homicide.
If she knows she did not commit the
murder
then it would have to be Mike. Does she ban him from the funeral? NO, he
is allowed to attend. Not only that, Raye Dawn's cousin and sister stay
in the home with him. Why would you do this if you thought this man
murdered
Kelsey?
Did her own family suspect it
was Raye Dawn? I can tell
you we have been contacted by members of her family and they do believe
that. Were they there because they were afraid Mike would tell what
really happened? I don't know....it is a question we will never have
answered. The biggest question I get is why would you put a two-year-old
to nap on your own bed without a pull up? It makes no sense to me
either. Another one is if you pop up out of bed and you are running late
to pick up one of the children from school what do you do? Do you want
Mike to come out to the porch and look at a turtle? A turtle that was on
the porch hours ago and was not put in a box? Or do you get in the truck
and go so that child does not have to wait?
After the trial the big question is why would
Gayla Smith
not report Mike for taping Kelsey's eyes
shut? She knew the past history and stated she was
"watchin"
him. She could have saved that baby's life
right then and there. If her daughter was a victim of circumstance she
could have saved her from years in prison. Instead she seemed to add
years to the sentence. At the same time she made herself look
guilty of enabling
child abuse or at the very
least guilty
of failure to report. When
Gayla Smith
was
asked about Kelsey's weight loss, her reply "she was taller." Okay, just
a little common sense here, if you are taller and healthy wouldn't you
weigh more or at the very least the same? The medical reports shows
Kelsey consistently weighed 24 pounds while in our home. She weighed
less after returning to her mother's home.
Another note: Kelsey was enrolled in gymnastics at her father's request.
We did not put her in dance because I knew Raye would probably want to
do that herself. I spoke to Raye Dawn about it and she was not happy. I
asked her to come watch the practice. I told her there were two rooms
for observation and I would stay in the other room so she would be more
comfortable. She
NEVER
showed up to watch her child. Two weeks later, Kelsey mysteriously has
two broken legs. Coinsidence...hmmmm!! Kelsey absolutely loved
gymnastics. She would be excited all day waiting for practice. You
should have heard how she tried to say "gymnastics". She thought she was
a big girl and looked adorable in her practice clothes. She was the
youngest and smallest and got all of the attention. It was sad when this
little piece of enjoyment was taken from her.
Then you are given one last chance to express remorse, the presentencing
report. Raye Dawn never states I wish I had done more, I made a terrible
mistake, I should have listened, I should have seen the red flags, or
Kelsey should never have suffered that way. Instead she states no one
cared about what she (Raye Dawn) was going through. What about what
Kelsey was going through Raye Dawn? She doesn't say she wants to do
public speaking about the signs of child abuse. She wants to speak about
not marrying a bad man twice. It still isn't about Kelsey and never was.
She wants to get out so she can have supervised visits with her son.
Doesn't she want to prove herself as a mother so she can raise her son?
Or is it more convenient to let someone else do it? Now that she has
been found
guilty
of
enabling child abuse
doesn't
that option go away? If she was only allowed supervised visits then why
did her boyfriend have a picture of himself and Blaine on his website
taken at Crest?
I don't want this to appear as
bashing. It is just the facts as I see them. If Raye is innocent
of all of the above why didn't she help her child? Why didn't Gayla help
Kelsey? Why didn't the many close family members that saw Kelsey on a
regular basis help Kelsey? Why didn't they want us at her funeral? Why
wouldn't she admit she was blindsided and work with us for justice? Why
does she forget Kelsey is the victim? I have yet to hear any of them say
they wish they had done more, they were wrong, they were sorry, and they
want to make it right by helping others see their mistakes? All they do
is point blame. In their eyes we are the guilty ones because
Raye Dawn failed.
We know we should have done more. We we were doing everything we knew to
do at the time. How would one ever imagine
Raye Dawn Smith,
the mother of my grandchild, would sit there and
watch her child die?
She says Mike Porter fooled her. I think she is the one that fooled
everyone. She fooled them into believing she was a mother. Yes, she gave
birth to Kelsey, but that does not make her a mother.
I am sure you will see this post on the "other" site. I hope they do
read it. One of their family members contacted my daughter recently
asking her how we could be so cruel. She recently asked me why we only
allow one side of this story to be told. The fact is there is only one
side and it is Kelsey's side. Our version never changes, theirs does on
a regular basis. It is rarely about Kelsey, only about how the Briggs
family failed this baby. Poor Kelsey, she never had a chance in the
maternal family. No wonder the pre-sentencing report recommends Raye
never have another child in her care. She didn't have Kelsey in her
"care".
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kjbriggs.
(It's all about Kathie. There was recently a death in Kathie's family and instead of the banner over the coffin stating "mother" or "daughter" etc, the banner said "sister" for Kathie. What about the child that was in the home? It's been reported the funeral was all about Kathie; Kathie lost Kelsey and now her family member. What about everyone else? That's why it's not surprising that Kathie turns every case and every conversation back to her own purpose.)
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RE:
The tears a mother has as a
defendant in a child abuse case are generally not for the child. The
tears are for themselves. It was reported Kelsey's mother bursted out in
tears and the jury had to be sent their room. Several witnesses stated
those tears stopped as if she had a switch as soon the jury door shut. I
personally was not in the courtroom at this time, but several people
made the same claim including several reporters.
I cannot imagine what it is like to wait so many years for justice.
Trials are mentally exhausting for families to endure. You hear things
you had never heard before. Pictures of the victim are hard for most to
see. In Kelsey's case our DA kept the autopsy pictures away from our
eyes.
I had never heard of putting tape on a child's eyes prior to Kelsey's
trial. This act is sick and to think in
Please do keep us posted on this trial.
This post was last modified: 08-30-2007 04:27 PM by kjbriggs.
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RE:
I have to wonder how many
mothers
Rest in peace,
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RE: The Media
Britten Follett is planning a
story tonight on Fox at 9:00.
As most of you already know we
are under a gag order. I cannot answer most of the questions that
have been presented to me. The fact is there are things we still do not
know in this case. We are pleased with the amended charge and hope it
will lead to more answers and possibly the truth.
You learn a lot about how the justice system works when you are in our
shoes and I would not wish this on anyone. You watch murder shows with a
new insight into what they are doing. You learn to keep secrets like
never before. You search your brain over and over to remember things
that were said in the past that now have new meaning. You are able to
ignore comments from those that think they know more. Then you are able
to laugh along the way when people are critical over things you do when
they have no idea what it is like to be us. You learn to do what feels
right, to make decisions based on personal reasons and not public
perception, you learn to live with a new life that you never asked for.
On a positive note....you learn most people are very supportive and kind
hearted. You have friends that you would never have met and will always
treasure. You learn a new appreciation for the little things in life.
You know God will lead you along the way and keep you strong so you can
deal with this on a daily basis now and forever.
(The above was posted 3-17-2007 - Kathie was supposedly under the gag order and still maintained the forum and posted articles that were all based on the Briggs' version of events.)
3-22-2007
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RE: The Media
Finally, a Grandmother that cares enough about a baby to protect him over her granddaughter. This is the natural thing to do opposed to what others have done that cost an innocent life.
3-25-2007
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RE: The Media
Most of the high profile news shows have been contacted. We encourage anyone to send this story to anyone you feel would take an interest. A magazine would be a great place to get some interest started. Please keep us posted on your progress. We have several members that continue to work on this.
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RE: 2yr. old's death becomes part of judicial campaign
I wonder if our District
Attorney does not get a conviction if this will be an issue in his next
election? I wonder if Logan Tucker's case will be an issue in Woodward
if that case is not handled properly? I know David Prater is
using cases against
Judge Craig Key has called the paternal grandmother's of a dead child
some choice names and we have the tape. Doesn't sound like the type of
thing a fine Christian man would do, does it?
If Sheila Kirk really wanted a
nasty campaign I can assure you she has the ammunition. She may
get up on November 8th and wish she had, but I really don't think so.
Win, Lose, or Draw she will be proud of what she has done in her efforts
to bring ethics back to the courthouse.
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RE: Another child abused in Shawnee
We have a mother
charged with Neglect and Enabling Child Abuse and her child is dead
after nine months of warning and she was released on a $2,500 bond.
Then we have a couple facing the same exact charges and the little girl
is not dead and their bond is set at $250,000.
Am I the only one who finds this wrong?
4-17-2006 Kathie lied in court. She perjured herself. Why wasn't she charged?
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RE: Another child abused in Shawnee
My opinion is if she was lying
in court when she testified, she should also be charged with perjury.
When she stated this to me on the day I picked Kelsey up from her
daycare with a court order she tried to blame Lance.
I
told her at that time if she suspected abuse on Kelsey, I didn't care if
she did think it was Lance she should have by law reported it.
This same worker is now soliciting donations from family and friends of
cash or things to sell on ebay to help with Raye and Gayla's expenses.
I think her testimony changes depending on the situation. One thing she
never changes is her belief that we caused all of these problems by
getting DHS involved.
If only she and all others involved with Kelsey had fought this hard for
her she would still be alive. At least they can still ask God for
forgiveness for failing that precious child.
This post was last modified: 04-17-2006 09:51 PM by kjbriggs.
This was posted 11/27/2007 after it was made public that Kathie took her kids to the DA and said, "If you don't take them, I'll kill them." Then it took her two years to get them back.
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(I wonder what Donna thinks now...)
Kb's supporter said this about her picture - "It shows you, I guess, in happier times. When you could smile and be a little more carefree." This was in January, 2006, the same month that Kathie was emailing, meeting with, and joking with Mike Porter.
Kelsey's Purpose members have made several political threats.
Hopefullymore10 is Pattsi Thornbrue - Her foster care home was shut down when she investigated a parent of one of the children she was fostering. That's against the rules. Now she's pushing for a class action law suit along with Kathie to "take down DHS." With some research, you'll see that after a successful class action, they can then sue for damages...all about the money!
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Kathie is talking about a parade to bring focus to child abuse and is posting it in the election time matters i.e.. political threats thread.
When Raye Dawn was taking the classes, guess who had custody of Kelsey? - Kathie!
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Patsy Thornbrue is
leading the suit against
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Remember from the abuse page, the picture she's showing is showing injuries from their auto accident where they were hit by a drunk driver and their vehicle was totaled. Kathie leaves out those details. Whenever words are bolded in posts, that's Kathie's doing. I'm just highlighting.
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The following post is interesting because any post with an opposing view doesn't last one minute on KP. Remember, the timeline, evidence, and an eyewitness account that I've heard all place Kelsey's legs being broken at Kathie's home. When DHS realized that and Kathie took Kelsey to another doctor and told him Kelsey was being abused so he would make note of it, DHS took Kelsey from Kathie's home.
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First, on a child that size with Mike's huge hands chest compressions could have definitely done damage to her little body. Second, the statement she makes about Raye Dawn leaving Kelsey there for Mike to find is exactly the statement Michelle Reeves, the juror who slept during the trial, made when she was interviewed after the trial. She's also the one who joined KP two days before the trial was over and after the trial expressed her wishes for Raye Dawn to be beaten in prison.
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More threats - It's NOUSE!
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It's all about media and attention.
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Remember that there is evidence and a witness supporting the fact that Kelsey's legs were broken at Kathie's home and that Kathie let Kelsey crawl for four days without seeking medical attention. Also, remember where Lance was, not in Iraq!
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In this email threat she included pictures of Kelsey after the car accident. The ones that were posed after according to Kelsey, they took her sucker away.
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Here is Kathie living her dream, being amused, while the Smiths are living a nightmare.
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Keep in mind that there were several injuries that occurred while Kelsey was in Kathie's home that weren't reported to DHS because Kathie was the one reporting. Kelsey was scratched by Kathie's cat, bit by Kathie's dog, bit by Kathie's other grandchild, and thought to be drugged with cold medicine on two DHS visits to the point that the worker couldn't wake up Kelsey. Kelsey lost weight and hair while living with Kathie and her appearance was referred to as something like a cancer patient. Does that sound like she was safe and happy?
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Yesterday 12:32 PM
Remember that Kathie admitted to Mike Porter in their emails that they were fighting over Kelsey.
Kathie said to Mike Porter in their emails, "It is hard to think a small child as precious as Kelsey died because so many loved her and fought over her."
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Asking for earmarked donations is illegal. This was the standard for asking for donations in Kelsey's Purpose after the Attorney General told Kathie no more donations without the donations going to an established charity.
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There were 53 home visits to Raye-Dawn's home from June to Oct. None of those visits showed any signs of physical abuse. From June - Sept., Raye-Dawn took Kelsey 50 miles 1 way to the doctor in OKC for check-ups at least 2 times a month (as per of her DHS treatment plan) - By June of 2005 Raye-Dawn completed her treatment plan that involved 4 separate classes (remember it took Kathie 2 years) and received certifications of completion. - Raye-Dawn called and checked in with DHS on an almost DAILY basis. Raye ALWAYS sought medical treatment for Kelsey - and even requested counseling -
-----Original
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From: KJBRIGGS@aol.com
To: truthaboutkelsey@aol.com
Sent: Tue, Oct 23 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: Hate mail thanks to Kathie and Lance
I don't know what you are trying to pull, but this email has nothing do with me. I am not responsible for others comments.
Kathie J. Briggs
www.kelseyspurpose.org
Soldiers Child..please watch.
The dead cannot cry out for
justice, it is the duty of the living to do it for them.
How many others have KP members blackmailed? Kathie lied and said a subpoena identified Truth Seeker as Judge Key's editor and she and her members have slandered harassed and blackmailed her so that we will stop fighting for Raye Dawn's freedom. How many other innocent people have been drug through the mud for Kathie's agenda to have Raye Dawn and her mother in jail? It's time the public hears the truth! The following email was sent from Starla Knox.
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Jody,
Seriously,
do you really think you can start a website,
www.richardsmothermon.com
trashing a DA, and seriously think that a subpeona can't
be obtained without your knowledge? Do you really think
that was a smart move? How many of the 12 websites that
you owned at the time the subpeona was issued are
nothing but
www.trashsomebodysites.com ?
How do you think the public will feel about you when
the information really does go public about your
identity with all the evil, filthy lies and twisted
facts that you have posted all over the internet about
Kelsey's paternal family?? How will that affect your
business? From what I have been able to find out, you
have nothing to compensate them if they do sue you.
But...a couple of investigative stories published in the
news will have such a lasting impact. Everytime someone
"searches" your name when looking for a writer, editor,
or voice over...well guess what? It will pull up a link
to the newstories too. Personally,
I think that
would do you greater monetary harm than sueing you.
Legit people won't want to hire an editor or writer with
so much negativity and controversy publicly displayed
by that person who has continually trashed and
disrespected the memory of a murdered, innocent child by
posting the evil lies all over the web like you have
done about Kelsey Briggs' paternal family. Did you
forget that the Briggs really do have connections? Do
you doubt that the reporter that you all trashed as
being a drunk maybe wouldn't jump at the opportunity to
do a story on the revealing of truthseekers identity
with all the facts that have been twisted and altered by
that person? and with the connection to Craig Key?
And just so you know,
I hear the OCCY
isn't very happy with the altered reports that have been
displayed on your sites. I also hear there are
"important" people that aren't happy that you posted
SEALED DHS documents on FKM, or did the Smiths or
Craig Key forget to mention to you those records were
sealed when they gave them to you?
You know something to put some thought into...you have
stated on FKM that you aren't perfect...how
much would someone find out on you to be splasing all
over the internet if they decided to take the time to
dig into YOUR past?
You started
this battle, you can end it. You started the websites,
you can end them and all of this can go away.
Blackmail and threats aren't worthy of a response. However, all I have to say is that Kathie posted on her forum that a subpoena identified me. This is a lie. Kathie found someone she wants to be me so she posted a lie on her forum and for four days her members trashed this person and posted her picture and home address and practically begged their members to attack her while they slandered her name and her business. Since, this person's business has suffered, she's received hate mail and menacing phone calls, and her vehicle has two bullet holes, a dent, and has recently been keyed. Recently, her home was broken into, but nothing was missing. This is a vehicle that she says she has driven for two years with no damage.
It's this type of hatred, harassment, and threats that put Raye Dawn in prison and has made many other innocent people suffer. It's time to put an end to this madness!
They're lying and saying we've altered reports. Nothing on this site has been altered. They're telling people we attack computers, etc and warn people not to come to our site. They will do anything to cover the truth and promote the lies. It's very sad that they've been allowed to get away with it this long.
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This is interesting considering that we've broken no laws and have not posted sealed documents like KP has and we've only stated the truth. Kelsey's Purpose members are all about threats. The grand jury threat is just ridiculous because unlike Kelsey's Purpose we have broken no laws and none of the documents on this site have been altered. They just don't want you to read them.
This is a post made by Kelsey's Purpose board members (Starla Knox is a frequent poster on this board and one of these could be an alias) where they attacked a child who was a victim of rape and her mother:
I wonder how White Rabbit aka Hodson would feel if someone made a website about her daughter? If they accused her, the mother, of allowing this rape? If they continued to bash her and her family? If I was the Briggs family I think I would do just that. Instead of being a victim of a horrible crime they would become the victim of vicious lies.
(If you click on the link to the emails between the Briggs and Mike Porter, you'll see that only two months after Kelsey's death Kathie was on what she called a bash board and said she was "addicted to it." On that bash board Kathie bashed Raye Dawn, her mother, her grandmother, the rest of Raye Dawn's family, and anyone else she could talk about. She's continues to allow the same to happen on Kelsey's Purpose, which is why these people now feed on negativity.)
If you have questions about the "charity" work that Kelsey's Purpose is doing, write to the IRS while their charitable status is still pending. Write to
IRS, Room 4024, PO Box 2508, Cincinnati, OH 45201 and send them any proof and concerns you have about their agenda, including vicious posts they've posted on their website and others they post on. Feel free to copy the KP posts from this page to include with your complaint.
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If you have given money to Kathie's charity, here is the link to the
Consumer Protection Complaint form
.We know Kathie received a $10,000 lump sum donation from one of her supporters. She received $3,000 from a fundraiser that was hosted by bikers for babies. We're sure she's collected thousands more. Lance is on disability and drives a new, customized truck. (He drove back and forth with a police escort following him during Raye's one and only rally in June, 2007)
We're interested in where their donations have gone. If you're also concerned, contact the attorney general.
Click here for information on what to do if you have a complaint against a business or individual who sold you a product or service. Consumer Complaint